This kind of stuff just kills me. Healthy women losing their babies after taking the latest H1N1 vaccine.
(read the report on women miscarrying after getting vaccinated below my points)
Yes I know story line, it’s all anecdotal. There are going to be a certain number of women in any random sampling that will will have miscarriages. Some of those women will have taken the vaccine and so will be naturally inclined to blame it on the shot when in fact they would have miscarried anyway.
I’m well aware of the kind of biases and errors in thinking that lead people astray when trying to do research. In most case I might be inclined to agree with the notion that these are merely anecdotes and thus have no scientific merit, however personally tragic they may be.
But not in this case. Here’s why:
**1) This was predicted by vaccine foes before the fact. The vaccine fanatics claimed there was NO risk to pregnant women when taking the H1N1 vaccine. In science successfully calling your shots matters more than anything. Yes I know these reports can’t be considered terribly scientific results, but they are the only real results we have. The vaccine pushers start out by assuming the vaccine is safe, and then dismiss all contrary evidence. Because after all, we KNOW it’s safe, right? Fortified with such comforting circular reasoning, they don’t pursue these reports (besides, that wouldn’t be good for their stock values).
**2) The H1N1 vaccine was not tested. It was rushed into production (because swine flu was going to kill us all don’t you know) at the behest of the government which also gave them immunity from lawsuits. The claim that vaccines have been “tested for 20 years or more and thus we don’t need more testing” is dishonest. Most test results are compromised because they are from pharmaceutical companies (the FDA doesn’t do its own tests here) or from researchers with pecuniary interests in the outcome. Besides that, real scientists are always willing to test a theory when there is so much doubt.
**3) The test that were done (on other vaccines) are based on cohort studies. Since we are talking about anecdotes, let’s talk about large scale anecdotes masquerading as science. That is what a cohort study is. Aggregate populations groups are compared; those who have taken the vaccine vs. those who haven’t. When the results are tallied it is seen that those in the population group that have taken the vaccine end up with a 50% (over all) lower mortality. Since it is not targeted and there are no controls, the idea that this can have any valid predictive value is laughable. After all, you can find similar disparities in just about any other societal demarcation. Draw a similar arbitrary line about any medical axis and you will always find more people on one side than the other. This is called “selection bias.”
**4) The vaccine foes aren’t simply stubborn and contrary cranks (well I am, but we aren’t talking about me) but are in fact highly respected doctors and scientists like Dr. Russell Blaylock, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, and many others. The attempt by the vaccine cheerleaders to smear their opponents as ignorant know-nothings ignores this fact. When you ignore the peer reviewed data, ignore credible scientists, ignore many many reports of illness from all over the world, and then claim the science is on your side, you aren’t simply being ignorant, you are being criminal.
**5) The insert that comes with the vaccine warns that the vaccine is not safe for pregnant women, nursing mothers or children less that 18 years of age. But wait! I know what you are thinking. Didn’t I just say that they said was safe? I’ll bet you think you got me now right? Well if you follow the link in point #1 you will see the following from the CDC FAQ regarding the H1N1 vaccine:
(Q) Is the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine safe for pregnant women?
(A) Flu vaccines have not been shown to cause harm to pregnant women or their babies…
But how can that be Mr. Peabody!? Conflicting notions make my head hurt and I feel all funny inside.
Well it’s like this children. When you have a lap dog press (busily rhapsodizing on the merits of our Sun King Obama) on your side, you can make up any self contradictory bullshit you want because you don’t have to worry that someone will point out that your propaganda doesn’t agree with itself.
The government wants everyone to “just take their dammed vaccine” and are therefore willing to say whatever they have to in order to make it so. The pharma boys are just reflexively covering their ass (even though they have immunity)
Anyway, that’s enough from me for now. Please read the following article in the Organic Health Advisor and don’t miss the Youtube video at the end.
-Ken
Please read the article below >>
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies? Well, the truth is that miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation. Vaccines and pregnancy simply do not mix safely. In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established.
What you are about to read below should shock and anger you. If they are telling us that the swine flu vaccine is not safe for children under 6 months of age, then why in the world would it be safe for pregnant women and their babies? That doesn’t make an ounce of sense, does it?
The following H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories are from a June 2010 birth club…..
EBWashington:
I am so upset. I was so excited to be pregnant after trying for a year. As soon as I found out I was pregnant, I joined this birth club and I was due June 25th. We have two healthy boys with no history of miscarriage. Everything was going great. Last Monday, I got the H1N1 vaccine thimerosal reduced (mercury reduced for pregnant women). On Tuesday morning, I started cramping and on Wednesday I started bleeding heavily. My hcg was 50 on Wednesday and I was almost 6 weeks along so it was low. They still thought that I might be pregnant but on Friday my hcg was down to 22. I am an emotional wreck. I feel like I had a healthy baby and I caused this by getting the H1N1 vaccine. My doctors pushed it. I researched online and there have been many miscarriages after the H1N1 vaccine but they haven’t been reported since it is hard to say what caused the miscarriages. I hope that I did not cause this. I wish everyone the best.
Tayla08
I don’t have an answer for you, but a friend of a friend just had a miscarriage 2-3 days after getting the shot. She was 7weeks. She had no previous history of m/c… No one can answer if they’re related…it hasn’t been out long enough and there haven’t been any studies done on pregnant women. I will tell you, that it has made up my mind on getting it…I won’t and I’m not going to get it for my DD either. My daughter and I both had H1N1 last week, and although it truly sucks…I think I’ll take my chances. One doctor will tell you to get it and the next will tell you not too…you have to do what’s in your heart.
90707
my heart goes out to you as i recently miscarried as well and was due in june. i had a healthy heart beat at 6wks. then at 7.5 wks my son got the h1n1 mist vaccine which has live vaccine in it. the nurse said to be careful b/c it could technically spread if he rubbed his nose and touched a surface etc. the next night i miscarried and 5 days later was diagnosed with h1n1. i work from home, kids are home, hadnt been anywhere during that time. so the chances that it is all related are very high. the flu mist vaccine warns for immunocompromised patients (which includes prego) to stay away from recipients of the flu mist for 21 days.
This next set of H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories is from an About.com page about miscarriage…..
Jo:
I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.
Regrets:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!
:
i work in a hospital like setting and was told ‘the benefits outweigh the risks” 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
sue:
I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.
Linda Hill:
My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.
SoSorry:
I was so ready to get the H1N1 vaccine last week and they were only giving them to pregnant women. I was 6 weeks along and got it and the next day I started cramping and miscarried. I already had two healthy pregnancies and never miscarried or had any problems. My doctors think I am crazy to think it was the H1N1 but if no one looks into this than other women will not know. I am so sorry that I got it.
Connie:
I also received the H1N1 vaccination on October 22nd, 2009 and went into labor on October 25th, at 16 weeks pregnant and we just heard the heartbeat and everything was fine with my pregnancy on October 16th, 2009, then on October 28th my water broke then on October 29th, I delivered a stillborn baby boy, and no one can tell me why…Everyone wants to say it did not come from the shot but I believe it did. My baby was growing at the correct pace and everyone wants to brush off the vaccination. I say if you have the vaccination and suffer a miscarriage if they are able to perform an autopsy have it done.
I also agree something needs to be done and looked more into with this vaccination because most women are being advised it’s just something that happens, but I also had two healthy children normal pregnancies and when I received this vaccination with my third pregnancy, my baby is gone.
sioux falls, south dakota:
I received the H1N1 vaccine on October 16th and started experiencing cramping on the 22nd. I was nearly 17 weeks pregnant and gave birth to a stillborn baby boy on the 23rd. Like many of the other women here, the first thing I suspected was the H1N1 vaccine. I immediately asked a nurse at the hospital if that would have anything to do with it. Without hesitation, she told me “absolutely not.” I had reservations about getting the vaccine, but followed the advice of my long trusted family doctor. In a follow up appointment with my doctor 3 days after I lost my baby, I asked him if the vaccine would have had any adverse effects on my baby. He also said that it was not possible. I don’t believe that my doctor was necessarily lying to me, he was simply following the accepted practices and opinions of his field. I do, however, believe that as a nation, we are being lied to. This vaccine is NOT safe during pregnancy. There has not been enough testing done to determine this and there are far too many “coincidences” for this to be anything but a result of a vaccine that was hastily pushed into production and distribution in an effort to stop widespread panic. I have read so many stories in defense of the vaccine that will talk about how common miscarriages are, but I would challenge you to ask ANY health care professional how common second trimester miscarriages are. My baby was doing perfect developmentally and I had felt him move earlier that day. My heart goes out to all of you out there who have had to go through the same heartache and loss that I have had in the last couple of weeks. There is no reason that any woman or family should have to go through this. Get the word out to all of the pregnant women that you know. I know that if I had heard that women had been losing their babies shortly after they received the vaccine, I would have followed my gut and not gotten it myself. Maybe then Wyatt would have had a chance at life.
Marina Rossi:
I recently got the H1N1 vaccine and miscarried 3 days later. I thought it could have been the vaccine but didnt ask. After finding this site I believe it was the vaccine. Sorry to everyone else out there who has just experienced a miscarriage.
kathy-sd:
I’m from a town of 2000 in SD, there are several women pregnant and we are all due within a few weeks of each other. Four of us got the H1N1 vaccine 2 weeks ago and one by one each of us started to have preterm contractions. We are all due in Nov and Dec so we are further along than most of the people that lost their babies. There is no way you can tell us that our preterm labor was not caused by the H1N1 vaccine. It may look like a “fluke” to some people when these women are scattered all over the country but we are talking about 4 of us in our small community. My heart goes out to all of you that lost your babies.
ashley:
Im not sure but not only myself, i know someone that withing 4 days of getting the shot we both miscarried, i was only 6 weeks and she was 4 months along, not sure if the shot caused it and cant find any other information but i am a little concerned about this coincidence.
Time Machine:
I got a flu shot in pregnancy, developed incredibly strange symptoms immediately (numb hands, feet and mouth, heart palpitations, sudden weakness in my legs, a bright red face), began bleeding and miscarried by 11 weeks. I had no idea there was mercury in most flu shots but once I found out after the fact, I was assured that I’d had the “mercury free” form. As it turned out, the shot wasn’t completely mercury free and, according to the EPA website, it still had 5,000 times the limit for mercury in drinking water– not to mention a list of other toxins (MSG, formaldehyde, etc.).
I’d had no idea the shots were so dirty. I guess I’d been under the impression they were something like sterile water and a dead virus, that’s it.
The strange symptoms– which I’d been told were “just pregnancy” lasted six months. No one could figure out what was wrong with me, why I couldn’t make stairs, why I felt like I’d been shot with novocaine. I learned later from a book by Jane Hightower that these were all symptoms of mercury exposure. I guess I’m one of those susceptible people. No one in my family is getting the H1N1– no one even gets regular flu shots anymore, we all read labels.
If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would. Take extra large doses of immunity building vitamins and research many of the great natural ways for fighting the flu that are out there on the Internet.
The truth is that if you do take the vaccine and then something happens, you will NOT be able to sue anyone (thanks to Congress). You will have to bear all the responsibility yourself. That doctor who kept pushing and pushing it on you will tell you that it could not have been the vaccine and that you probably would have miscarried anyway.
Do you honestly want to inject a vaccine that may contain mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (associated with infertility), triton X100 (a strong detergent), phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) and a whole bunch of other toxic ingredients into your system when you know that your baby will absorb it too and has no defenses against most of these things?
In the very short video posted below, you will see one health expert explain to Sean Hannity that not even the swine flu vaccine package insert says that it is safe for pregnant women…..
The reality is that if you are pregnant, you need to hear what both sides have to say before ever subjecting your baby to the swine flu vaccine. You do NOT want to end up like one of the mothers above. Please help us out by sharing this information with as many people as you can. If you know of any additional H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories please post them below in the comments section.
during the height of the H1N1 or Swine Flu epidemic, i was very afraid to get infected with this disease and i wore face mask whenever i got into heavily populated areas.